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December 25, 2008: remembering Christmas in Jerusalem and Arad in 2005


E 'for a long time since I write on my blog.

Now I have neither the head nor the inclination to do so but at least try to regain his strength to put interview with Amos Oz interview with journalist Umberto De Giovannangeli. I just found on the Internet and can be found at the site of CIPMO or in the Unit, from which this newspaper.

The topic is always relevant and with the current climate now on Gaza and the entire Land of Israel and Palestine hope to Oz and its people to "have courage" to put and call us Europeans always a hand on consciousness and stop pointing the finger at one another or against the so biased and sterile.

remember 27 December 2005 when, with Lorenzo (my husband) went to visit him at his home in Arad to know: Lorenzo was writing a book "Jerusalem in memory of Amos Oz," and simply wanted to know. The coffee they offered us was excellent! And the man turned out to be a "great".

"cut and paste" below an interview recently (November 30, 2008) by journalist Umberto Giovanangeli Oz.

Some might argue, "but we in Europe, nowadays, after all, what of it?" Got to do, and how! Unfortunately I think it is possible to hope in the two states split because there are too many Israeli settlements in the Land of Palestine: If you look at the maps that continue to change the borders and settlements, there is a country (the two together) to scrub Leopard where the zones are well defined between them. I think they should also get these images in our news. Nevertheless, not point the finger, instead I try to encourage and promote actions that men like Amos Oz (but there are many on both sides) make every day for a possible peace.

About the Israelis and the Palestinians and we hear what Oz says:

Two victims of the same oppressor. Europe, which colonized the Arab world, exploited, humiliated, it has trampled culture, which he controlled and used as the basis of imperialism, is the same Europe that has discriminated, persecuted, hunted and finally mass extermination Jews perpetrating a genocide unprecedented. (Amos Oz)

The Israeli-Palestinian tragedy, compromise and peace: a vision of Amos Oz

Umberto De Giovannangeli

His novels made him famous in around the world. The commitment to dialogue with the Palestinians has always accompanied his extraordinary literary output. Writing and civic engagement inextricably intertwined in the life path of the greatest of contemporary Israeli writers Amos Oz. From books agony politician in this conversation with the Unit, Oz explains the meaning of his challenge. And he tells "his" Israel. Starting in a Holy Land that feeds on absolute dall'elogio compromise. Antidote to fanaticism, "In my world - reflects Oz - the word compromise is synonymous with life. And where there's life there are compromises. The opposite of integrity is not compromised and even idealistic and even determining, or devotion. The opposite of compromise is fanaticism and death. " Writing and politics. A combination that helps the great Israeli writer to frame the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: "What makes it particularly serious - Oz notes - is that it is essentially a conflict between two victims. Two victims of the same oppressor. Europe, which colonized the Arab world, the exploited, humiliated, he has trampled culture, which he controlled and used as the basis of imperialism, is the same Europe that has discriminated, persecuted, hunted, and finally mass extermination Jews perpetrating a genocide unprecedented. Strictly speaking, two victims should show solidarity with each other instinctively. So often happens in novels. But in real life some of the most bitter conflicts in the field see the two victims of the same oppressor. "

CONSIDERATIONS Amos Oz are permeated by an inspired realism. Like when he stresses that "the opposite of war is not the love and the opposite of war is not even pity, and the opposite of war has nothing to do with the generosity and forgiveness and brotherhood. No, the opposite of war is peace. Nations must be able to live in peace. If I make time to see the state of Israel and the State of Palestine living side by side pattern, without bloodshed, without terrorism, without violence, I'd be happy even if it were a triumph of ...». In his country, Israel, Amos Oz calls an act of courage. Political, moral, intellectual. And historic. In particular, a pressing issue, crucial to a peace agreement: the issue of Palestinian refugees. "The time has come - says writer - to openly acknowledge our participation in the catastrophe that imprisons the Palestinian refugees. We are not alone responsible, and the only culprits, but our hands are not clean. The State of Israel is strong and mature enough to admit their share of responsibility and to speed up the conclusions. "

It is not everyday that a writer, albeit busy, decides to "get their hands dirty" with politics, down the field to form a new party. What led to this choice?

"The decision to involve more in creating a true social democratic party, is derived from the consideration that the next Israeli elections (scheduled for February 10, 2009, ed.) may be decisive for the future of the country. Could result in the choice of the path of peace or war. This is what is at stake. And we have never been so close, as now, an agreement with the Palestinians. With regard to the nature of this team, I felt that only the Meretz (left secular and pacifist, ed.) May serve as a basis for giving expression to the need for a party that carries out a social democratic platform that today, in Israeli politics, has no real representation. "

And why the Labour Party, the party of David Ben Gurion, Golda Meir, Yitzhak Rabin - whose history is deeply intertwined with the birth of the State of Israel and most of his sixty years of life - is not the most? What remains today of that party and the principles that inspired him?

"Unfortunately, very little. The Labour Party has become a partner very marginal government coalitions led by others. Its historic mission has been completed and a success is only partial. It's true - and this must be recognized - that the Israeli left has managed to penetrate many of his ideas in Israeli public opinion. Many taboos have been broken. We can certainly say that, largely, the area's political center-right Israeli today, has absorbed and made their positions for which 15-20 years ago, the left was accused of defeatism, or worse, treason . The problem is that Labour have failed to carry through this work: they have convinced much of the public on the positions of principle, but failed to find a way to make concrete and accepted by the majority even with the inevitable conclusion, that means the necessity of ending the conflict based on territorial borders of 1967, West Jerusalem capital of Israel and East Jerusalem the capital of a Palestinian state and assurance of peace and security for Israel. But that's not all ... "

What else?

"The Labour Party was a partner in recent years, governments have been running the country on the basis of a capitalist economy would call brutal, without rules, without social constraints. This state of things must be radically changed. Go find a social-economic system that gives the right answer to the needs of even the poorest sections of society and in need of help. "

Israel has lived for years between fear and hope. Feelings that mark the present and influence the future. What is the vision of Israel of which you are the bearer?

"I think we should and we can end the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians, or at least reduce its size to compare with the regime, to Hamas, which now controls Gaza. Such a result would represent in itself a historical fact has changed a lot over the current situation, as throw open the possibility of peace with the Arab world. "

It is said that intellectuals are critical conscience of a country. This assumption is still valid and if so, how to set the current reality of Israel?

"The Israeli intellectuals cover a wide span of ideas so as to make difficult and unlikely any attempt at generalization. I myself do not see myself as a consciousness of Israeli society. I consider myself an involved citizen, who has a particular sensitivity to language. This is the channel that brings me closer to the reality of the country and social commitment that brings me feel I have to give. "

Looking to Israeli-Palestinian conflict, she has written and spoken often of a tragedy where two rights collide with equally well-founded. It 's still the case and how to get out?

"The only way out for passes compromessoe for the recognition of its existence in peace and in its sovereign and secure borders. Where there is a clash between two just rights, including fair and equitable, the finalepuò only be of two types: Shakespeare or Chekhov. In the first scene is littered with dead bodies and despair reigns in the second, all the characters are dissatisfied, melancholy, sad and heart heart broken, but nobody dies. I am looking for a final Israeli-Palestinian tragedy to Chekhov. "

In a topical pamphlet, "Against Fanaticism," in which are collected some of his lectures, she has played a polished, passionate speech of the compromise. Is not inconsistent with the sharpness of the ideas that drove you to politics?

"Definitely not. You see, when I say I do not mean capitulation compromise, I will not turn the other cheek to the adversary, an enemy, a bride. I intend to meet each other, more or less halfway. Everyone knows the price and terms. Everyone knows, kilometer, mile less, what will the final map of the Agreement. It's just a matter of courageous leadership of both parties, to realize what the two people already know in their hearts. And compromise means that the Palestinian people should never kneel, or even should do the Jewish people in Israel. One of the features of this tragedy is that he wanted to defer the research, inevitably, a compromise. Inevitable because, like it or not, we must divide this land: neither we nor they have nowhere else to go, "

Unity November 30, 2008

http://www.cipmo.org/1501-indice-rassegna-nazionale/intervista-amos-oz-unita.html